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Post by salty on Jun 28, 2009 9:56:20 GMT -5
Would demi-gods be able to shapeshift at all?
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Post by Wolfezth Deraine on Jun 28, 2009 13:42:46 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by salty on Jun 28, 2009 13:48:38 GMT -5
But if Gods could, doesn't that mean that their children would get part of that power? (Just curious)
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Post by luncia on Jun 28, 2009 18:27:40 GMT -5
No, they are demigods, only part god and if they could shape shift, then they could get out of a lot of things and etc. It also wouldn't be fair and they could use it badly and the gods can't take care of everything. So that's a no.
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Post by Wolfezth Deraine on Jun 28, 2009 18:44:25 GMT -5
No, they are demigods, only part god and if they could shape shift, then they could get out of a lot of things and etc. It also wouldn't be fair and they could use it badly and the gods can't take care of everything. So that's a no. That and in Greek mythology the gods don't shapeshift. If this was Norse than it would be a different story, but Greek gods stayed in their own forms. |
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Post by luncia on Jun 28, 2009 18:52:29 GMT -5
Greek gods did shape shift. Like the tale of the white bull that Zeus turned into when he was with a girl, and then had to turn her into a white cow to save her from, I think, Hera's wrath, and then the white cow crossed into Egypt and was worshiped as a god.
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Post by Wolfezth Deraine on Jun 28, 2009 18:56:07 GMT -5
Greek gods did shape shift. Like the tale of the white bull that Zeus turned into when he was with a girl, and then had to turn her into a white cow to save her from, I think, Hera's wrath, and then the white cow crossed into Egypt and was worshiped as a god. That is Greek gods turning OTHERS into animals and things, not themselves.  My point remains completely valid in that the Greek gods never shapeshifted. The story if I am correct actually had him turn her into a cow so Hera wouldn't kill her. Zeus never turned into anything himself in that myth if I remember correctly. Feel free to prove me wrong if I am. |
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Post by luncia on Jun 28, 2009 19:55:59 GMT -5
Zeus had turned into a white bull to sweep Europa away. He ran away with her over the seas. When Zeus arrived in Crete, he made her queen and she had three sons, one of which became a judge in the underworld.
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Post by Wolfezth Deraine on Jun 28, 2009 19:58:12 GMT -5
Zeus had turned into a white bull to sweep Europa away. He ran away with her over the seas. When Zeus arrived in Crete, he made her queen and she had three sons, one of which became a judge in the underworld. Proof link please. Minos had nothing to do with that story, and that's the judge of which you speak by the way. And if I remember correctly the girl didn't get reverted back to human form period. Or if she did it was the myth where she was literally burned up due to Hera forcing Zeus to revert to his true form in front of her. |
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Post by lyzander on Jun 28, 2009 20:07:27 GMT -5
Not to join in on an administrator's discussion (:S), but Luncia is correct on this one. As such, proof being in the tale of when Demeter was raped by Poseidon. She attempted to escape his pursuing by transforming herself into a mare. However, he persisted and just shifted into a mare himself, and continued with it.
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Post by luncia on Jun 28, 2009 20:09:56 GMT -5
Pg. 108 of D'aulaires' Book of Greek Myths by Ingri and Edgar Parin D'aulaire's.
'Europa had three sons: Minos and Sarpedon, who became great kings, and Radamanthus who was so wise that after his death he was made a judge in the underworld.' qouted from the book.
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Post by Wolfezth Deraine on Jun 28, 2009 20:11:02 GMT -5
Not to join in on an administrator's discussion (:S), but Luncia is correct on this one. As such, proof being in the tale of when Demeter was raped by Poseidon. She attempted to escape his pursuing by transforming herself into a mare. However, he persisted and just shifted into a mare himself, and continued with it. It honestly doesn't matter if y'all can find a way to nitpick. The question was that if demigods could shapeshift, and that was a no. Greek Gods don't shapeshift, and even if they did it doesn't really matter at all on the question. Their children cannot, and that was the question. Try again. Also, links for proof or I won't believe it. My Greek mythology book got stolen and I got suspended and then exspelled for things related for me looking for it before I could read it all the way so I'm not completely versed in the myths. And in the Percy Jackson series Minos was a judge in the Underworld, and this is based on that series. I'ma actually be right back and look it up now that you've listed a lineage. Still has no relevance whatsoever on the matter at hand though. EDIT: You were right on the fact that Zeus did shapeshift at least once. Still has absolutely no relevance on the argument, but I was wrong. You were wrong on the part that Minos wasn't a judge on the Underworld though, which he was even in 'normal' Greek Mythology. |
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Post by lyzander on Jun 28, 2009 20:15:12 GMT -5
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Post by luncia on Jun 28, 2009 20:21:48 GMT -5
I have never heard of what Alex typed, you said Greek Gods couldn't shape shift and I was just telling you they could and I already said no to salty's question. I answered and now salty knows no and learned other things. So I guess that clears it up pretty well.
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You can't really trust everything on wikipedia, a lot of people can modify and do other stuff to it, this is not towards Alex's post though, just a heads up.
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Post by salty on Jul 2, 2009 9:07:11 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I was just curious.
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My point remains completely valid in that the Greek gods never shapeshifted.